oh man right at the top of a new page and everything. 1000/10, would lol again
Alright, here's where I get confused. Being any of the things LGBT stands for is normal and there's nothing wrong, blah blah, yet treating it like it's normal seems to have offended you. I don't want to sit around and talk to someone about how straight they are either. If I don't latch onto that one aspect of you it's not denying your experience, it's starting with less intimate topics of similar interest.
Going back to the 1-3% thing, I like to think that about 1-3% of the pedestrians I run over in Grand Theft Auto are LGBT, and about 1-3% of the Toads in the Mushroom Kingdom are too. It's just that the former are too busy being run over to tell me about it, and the latter don't talk about their sexuality, regardless of orientation.
But those are NPCs. For protagonists, sure, there aren't nearly as many LGBT game protagonists as there "should be," if protagonists were people who were randomly selected from the general population. But that's the thing: fictional characters aren't randomly selected; they are created. If you got 100 character designers to each make a character, with the instructions of making that character an average person, you would not get 1-3 LGBT characters out of that, because they are not average characters.
Now, if instead of instructing those character designers to make an average person, you told them to just make a person, then perhaps you would expect more to be LGBT. I don't know.
Maybe I can say what I mean better with an analogy. Say you're playing Final Fantasy Tactics (and good on you for that). You set up an attack and it shows up as having a 97% chance to hit. If you as a single player set up and execute that attack 100 times, you would expect to miss 3 of those times. On the other hand, if you sat 100 different people down to execute that same attack just once each, every single one of them will be expecting to hit. You will not get 97 people who expect to hit and 3 people who expect to miss. An outside observer of this exercise would expect that 97 people would land a hit and 3 would miss, but each individual player would not expect to be the one to miss.
To bring that back to character design, you have 100 designers each making a character. Even if they all know the math and believe that about 3% of the game protagonists should end up LGBT just by pure chance, each individual designer does not believe that he is the one to make an LGBT game protagonist.
I'd be interested in seeing honest statistics for gender/orientation of created characters in series like Mass Effect and Dragon Age. And maybe Skyrim.
Wait, I thought Analoge was a woman. Or is "he" her prefered pronoun? Or his. I'm fucking confused.
EDIT: Or what Dig just said.
She, and I'm guessing Tautologic Pleonasm just doesn't know that.
I will drawn a line under the arguing on the previous thread, I disagree with the replies to my last post and could reply with astute responses back, but this page is actually turning into a interesting debate so I really want to stick with that.
That said, I find Skyrim's weirdly bisexual culture easier to swallow than DA2's cast because Skyrim has hundreds upon hundreds more NPCs scurrying about with their own lives and schedules - do you want to write and decide each and every one of these character's sexualities or risk fucking it up and offending people? Skyrim being a power fantasy tends to alleviate its weirdness. Like many things in the game, marriage is a small footnote. Take the guy or gal you want and go - you have hundreds of dungeons and dragons to be worrying about. That and Skyrim lives off its lore more than character based interactions.
They're two different beasts, really. The Mass Effect team wants fleshed out characters and a focused narrative, Bethesda Game Studios lets lore take precedence and gives you a power fantasy within that.
Edit: Although there is a distinct lack of Trans characters in the mediums of TV, Movies, Games and even when they are represented it is usually in a negative way.
Secondly, having your identity acknowledged by an individual who is trying to interact with you in real life is in no way similar to having someone who is supposed to represent what you identify as appear in a multi-katrillion dollar RPG franchise and misrepresent you to millions of players around world. Get serious.
Last edited by Analoge; 01-16-2013 at 10:51 AM. Reason: Grammars
That said, not as a personal attack, but that first paragraph comes off as prickly at best. I get that as a transgender woman there's a lot of discrimination against you, but I sincerely doubt being that aggressive in a response to potential ignorance is going to help anything at all.
Reading a whole thread before posting in it would be a waste of time.
I don't know anything about relationships. Ever.