Other Television Series Thread

[Edd Strid]

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[ReeceH92]

So I just finished Twin Peaks. It was an interesting series, but I'll come out and say this: I hated the finale.

To anyone who plans on watching the show, I have kept this post spoiler-free.

I'm not really a fan of symbolism and metaphorical means, so perhaps David Lynch's work was never for me in the first place. That said, I did enjoy the show and got used to Cooper's weird visions. I had actually hoped that these would be explained in the final episode, as with dozens of other plotholes and unfinished storylines. However, the final episode was possibly the most confusing and ridiculous pieces of television I have ever watched.

When I have to Google an explanation for a scene, that's where entertainment has failed, in my opinion. I'm all for vague endings that open interpretation and discussion though, and I would have preferred that instead to what we got.

While Googling for said explanation, I came across some discussions and reviews of the last episode. The majority were praising its genius and cinematic brilliance. Really? The general consensus seems to be that season 2 lead the series downhill, but the finale was the best episode. This is exact opposite of my feelings towards the show. I preferred season 2 as I found the first season to be pretty boring in places and the introduction of so many characters at once to be confusing. I became more attached to the characters in season 2 and found that the pace was far more enjoyable.

So yeah, I've likely pissed off any Twin Peaks fans here. Sorry! I guess I just don't get it. To clarify again, I'm not a fan of art or surrealism, and I feel that that's all this episode was. Am I really the only one who found it laughable though? I wanted to scream "WHAT?!" at the screen as everything just plunged into madness further and further with each passing second. Jim's Willem Dafoe movie pitches make more sense.

After some reading, I'm aware that Lynch only had limited time to direct the episode, and that he had planned on creating another season. Still, the stupidity of what was happening in the scene, the lack of explanation, the dark and bitter ending, sudden killing of characters (while simultaneously humiliating them), the untied story arcs... Argh! It blows my mind. Seriously, it was like it suddenly changed into some foreign B-movie. I find it amusing that the show was inspired Deadly Premonition, and yet even the insanity that was DP's final chapter made more sense.

Overall, I don't regret watching the series. It was interesting until that point, and unlike anything else I've ever seen. I am pretty disappointed and left with a bitter taste in my mouth though.

Ah well! I'm thinking of watching Dexter next. Yeah, I still haven't watched it. I finished Breaking Bad not long ago which has become my new favourite, and I'm still loving The Walking Dead. Any other recommendations, though?

[ZombiePlatypus]

BJ Honeycut was in tonight's episode of Supernatural.

It was pretty legit.


I was concerned they were jumping the shark with that opening scene, but it was explained throughout the episode and it all tied together to make perfect sense. I should have never doubted Supernatural.

[Stevil]

So I just finished Twin Peaks. It was an interesting series, but I'll come out and say this: I hated the finale.

Twin Peaks is surreal, but not the point of obscurity. It does lay out the clues early on, and most of the second half to Season 2 digs them back up. Perfect example - remember how Cooper keeps dreaming about the Black Lodge and how he's an old man there? Well, it's not a dream, he's basically forseeing his fate.

You also have to remember how Earle's wife changed him, and how Annie does the same thing. Cooper is seen as infallible, has made himself that way. He really doesn't care for people's problems, only how their motivations affect the case. It's how he solves the murders. But when he meets Annie, he's basically like everyone else - he's fearful and has something to lose. It's the reason why he panics in the Black Lodge.

If you think there's a clear lack of explanation for the last twenty minutes, then you're dead wrong.

[Tarvu]

Twin Peaks is on my list of things to watch sometime, I keep seeing things being compared to it.

[Panzadolphin56]

I loved it up until they revealed Laura's killer and it sort of went off the beaten track, after that things just seemed to go downhill. Actually stopped watching it became so boring.

[ZombiePlatypus]

Finished The Shield, gonna post some final thoughts all in spoilers

Spoiler!

-Vic's confession scene in episode 12 was amazing. It was great to see Vic finally acknowledge everything he's done, that amount of honesty is so rare for a character like him.

-Every scene with Shane and Mara this season was excellent. I disliked Mara in earlier seasons, but she was fantastic all season.

- A general meh towards the conclusions for Claudette and Dutchboy. I kinda feel like all the side characters have taken an undeserved spot in the backseat for the last two seasons.

-Loved Vic's ultimate fate, very satisfying.

Spoiler!

-He was laying it all out there, and coming across as even more evil while doing so. He was so nonchalant and callous. All the while fucking over his last "friend", Ronnie.

-I hated Mara in prior seasons as well. Both her and Vic were poison to Shane, exacerbating the negative traits he already had and making things worse. But yeah, in the last seasons she "got better". Family meeting, .

-Dutch still had some good stories in the last seasons. I liked the whole interrogation he had with his girlfriend's son. And Billings. Billings kept things interesting.

-Vic is definitely trapped. You just know he's going to fuck up, too. He can't be that desk guy, it's not in his nature.

[Stevil]

I loved it up until they revealed Laura's killer and it sort of went off the beaten track, after that things just seemed to go downhill. Actually stopped watching it became so boring.

Yeah, Season 2 went through a fair share of production problems and it really shows. I mean, it has Billy Zane in it. That's when you know you've got problems! Oh, and that annoying twat from Electric Dreams as that shut-in with Laura's diary. Probably one of the worst actors I've ever seen.

[nmcmahan52]

season two, especially towards the end was soooo bad, the dancing dwarf was ballin' though

[Stevil]

I'd say Windom Earle was part of that problem. He wasn't in the same league as Laura's killer. He was supposed to be the polar opposite of Cooper, but he just came across as weird for the sake of weird and pulled off some pretty outlandish stuff (the chess piece murder). I enjoyed his comeuppance, though.

[GlowBear]

AHS:Asylum loves to keep you thinking there's a a break happening for the characters and then at the end of each episode things just get darker.

Spoiler!

The whole alien/chip in Chip thing seems very detatched and uneeded in the grand scheme of the story, so I am wondering how that'll tie together and if it weaves itself in smoothly or is just there. OH YEAH ALIENS JUST HANGING OUT.

Jessican Lange and Sarah Paulson continue to perform superbly. It's dark, it's bleak and it utterly watchable. I just wonder why Ryan Murphy has going on that all the female characters suffer the most brutality.

[Artful-dodgeR]

Just finished Firefly (haven't watched Serenity yet). I now know where there is such a cult following, it was a fantastic little bloody show.

Next up, Supernatural. Never watched it, only have a few seasons to catch up on... right?

[ZombiePlatypus]

Just finished Firefly (haven't watched Serenity yet). I now know where there is such a cult following, it was a fantastic little bloody show.

Next up, Supernatural. Never watched it, only have a few seasons to catch up on... right?

It's on its seventh or eighth season now. IS GOOD.

[usedtabe]

Wish Netflix had The Wire and The Shield.


Grunchkin finally saw American Horror Story as she wouldn't be assed to stream it so had to wait for Netflix to get it. Was fun going through it again though. Can't wait to start the second season.

Haven't given a shit about TWD. I will probably just wait the year or so it takes Netflix to get it as the two episodes from season 3 I've watched were pathetic.

@Artful: Supernatural is awesome. Jealous ZP gets to watch the current season.

[ZombiePlatypus]

I wish The Wire was on netflix too. It being HBO makes me have no hope of that actually happening though.

I was hooked on that first season of American Horror Story and burned through it over the weekend. Really itching to see season two.

Fuck The Walking Dead.

Supernatural is the show other shows aspire to be.

[usedtabe]

If work hasn't been so busy and I wasn't forcing myself to wait I would be caught up on Season 2 of AHS in a day. I'm trying to let the backlog grow as I burned through the first season just like you did. Show is amazing.

[umberhulk]

Spoiler!

I hated Billings. Him along with hot Latina cop were two characters whose existences always baffled me. I guess they kind of served to reveal different types of people in the police force and their unique types of conflicts, but by the time they were introduced the show had basically given up on bigger picture story telling and made it all about Vic and his latest shenanigans.

With Dutch, I'm just disappointed that they never tried for a bigger arc with him. Claudette became Captain, Acaveda became Mayor, Dutchboy basically just went on a seven season quest to competence and they never really gave him anything substantial, which is a shame seeing as how he's literally the only other character besides Vic to appear in every episode.

And yeah, Vic is definitely fucked. Part of me thinks he'll be able to fool ICE for a while, but they're practically looking for anything they can to nab him, I don't imagine happier days are waiting for him.

Overall, a great series. It had some rough patches, and to me, never even got close to it's season 4 peak, but I'm glad I watched it. Now I need a new hour long drama to consume my life, what are your recommendations people?



You know that by saying that, you kinda spoil incoming twists just by making them expected, right?

Either way, I'm only about one episode behind you I think and am just constantly blown away by how good the show is remaining. Once I catch the new one I'll find this post again and actually read the spoilers part.

Rescue Me or Veronica Mars.

[ZombiePlatypus]

Spoiler!

I hated Billings. Him along with hot Latina cop were two characters whose existences always baffled me. I guess they kind of served to reveal different types of people in the police force and their unique types of conflicts, but by the time they were introduced the show had basically given up on bigger picture story telling and made it all about Vic and his latest shenanigans.

With Dutch, I'm just disappointed that they never tried for a bigger arc with him. Claudette became Captain, Acaveda became Mayor, Dutchboy basically just went on a seven season quest to competence and they never really gave him anything substantial, which is a shame seeing as how he's literally the only other character besides Vic to appear in every episode.

And yeah, Vic is definitely fucked. Part of me thinks he'll be able to fool ICE for a while, but they're practically looking for anything they can to nab him, I don't imagine happier days are waiting for him.

Overall, a great series. It had some rough patches, and to me, never even got close to it's season 4 peak, but I'm glad I watched it. Now I need a new hour long drama to consume my life, what are your recommendations people?

Huh, I didn't notice the giant spoiler stuff.

With Billings, if he was a real person I would definitely hate him, but as a character on a TV show I loved his shit.

With Tina, she really existed more to show development in Julian, and to give a contrast to Danny's brand of female cop. She really wasn't ever her own character. Speaking of Julian, his major subplot of coming to terms with his sexuality disappeared halfway through the series, until there was that nod to it towards the end.

[GlowBear]

You know that by saying that, you kinda spoil incoming twists just by making them expected, right?

Either way, I'm only about one episode behind you I think and am just constantly blown away by how good the show is remaining. Once I catch the new one I'll find this post again and actually read the spoilers part.

Probably aye in hindsight, but to be fair (which is stretching I know) that's what the 1st season did as well

[Stevil]

Somehow, I've watched four episodes of Arrow.