Mass Affection (Mass Effect Series)

[panchromatic]

I was talking about Alpha Protocol and New Vegas. BECCY.

2 YEARS FOR ALPHA PROTOCOL and admittedly I haven't finished NV.

I don't think anyone has spoiled the TWIST yet anyway. That the PC is actually Chewbacca, that wookie from the classic movie, Revenge of the Sith

Revan is Luke's father.

[Sir Legendhead]

I don't think anyone has spoiled the TWIST yet anyway. That the PC is actually Chewbacca, that wookie from the classic movie, Revenge of the Sith

Revan is Luke's father.

You get to the end of the game only to find out you were dead the whole time?

Ehhh that's all I got.

[State Lemming]

Revan is Luke's father.

Chewbacca knew this and that is why he was on Tattooine to take Luke and Obi-Wan to Alderaan.

[Stevil]

And the best part is, theirs was the best written and most authentic relationship in the entire trilogy.

Don't make me angry...You wouldn't like it when I'm angry.

RAAAAARGH!

[Sir Legendhead]

...and that was THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION.

[GlowBear]

I'm not sure if any of the relationships were exceptionally well written within the games. EDI and Joker's relationship was sweet, but there was something flawed about it. Lots of reasons why something could go wrong, but I suppose if they got over those things it would make them stronger.

Joker is very brittle and to engage in dah schmexuals with EDI would be dangerous. EDI will outlive Joker. There could be backlash from people who find the idea of a human being being with a synthetic appalling, especially after all that they had gone through at the hands of crazy robots.

[Stevil]

I'm sure people who own Real Dolls will disagree.

I heard those things break first.

[Sir Legendhead]

I'm not sure if any of the relationships were exceptionally well written within the games.

I'm sure they're not, actually. For me to say theirs was the best of the entire trilogy is tantamount to singling out one midget as the tallest of his kind. He's being damned with faint praise, and he's still...coming up short.

yeaaaaah

EDI and Joker's relationship was sweet, but there was something flawed about it. Lots of reasons why something could go wrong, but I suppose if they got over those things it would make them stronger.

Well yeah, their relationship was flawed. Ironically enough, that's what made theirs the most human. It was a damn sight more interesting than "quick shag in the face of imminent death".

Joker is very brittle and to engage in dah schmexuals with EDI would be dangerous. EDI will outlive Joker. There could be backlash from people who find the idea of a human being being with a synthetic appalling, especially after all that they had gone through at the hands of crazy robots.

So basically it's the same as an old white guy dating a younger woman of some other non-white race. Not that I'm trying to make you look racist against robots or anything. Just saying, it's kind of interesting to see how it relates to things that can happen in the real world.

[GlowBear]

They're not made of some near indestructible alloy with regenerative shields ;_;

[Stevil]

I must be a total prude these days, cos when I send her out on a mission, I make sure she has the blue costume on. Cover up, woman!

[GlowBear]

So basically it's the same as an old white guy dating a younger woman of some other non-white race. Not that I'm trying to make you look racist against robots or anything. Just saying, it's kind of interesting to see how it relates to things that can happen in the real world.

I was saying that OTHER people in ME world would be against their relationship. Personally I don't see a correlation between that and the real world, especially interracial relationships.

Joker is shagging (or trying to) a synthetic. Generally speaking, Synthetics in different forms have killed many people, of various species and wanted to destroy the Galaxy. So naturally people would be a bit miffed that someone would fall in love with one of them.
So their hatred might not neccessarily be based on bigotry at all, but on simply not liking a dude fucking a robot, when a bunch of robots have been killing people and their loved ones all over the place.

It happens in Battlestar Galactica. Certain humans have enaged in relationships, marraige and repopulated with the Cylons and many people were against that notion, in a violent manner, because the Cylons had all but wiped out the entire human race.
That's not bigotry and it's an insult to those that suffered racism, to compare a robot to a human being.

Though in BSG there was a closer, finer line between the Cylons and Humans, that hasn't yet been properly created and intergrated in the ME games.

[Stevil]

Look, we all know Male Shep and Ash was the best.

Let's move on.

[GlowBear]

Dr Chakwas was touching evvvurrrboday up!

[Sir Legendhead]

I must be a total prude these days, cos when I send her out on a mission, I make sure she has the blue costume on. Cover up, woman!

Mission Serious Conversation; Status: ABORTED

I was saying that OTHER people in ME world would be against their relationship. Personally I don't see a correlation between that and the real world, especially interracial relationships.

Yes, I UNDERSTOOD you. So are you saying that you don't think interracial relationships in the real world would have that problem?

...

Your part of the world must be a wonderful place.

[GlowBear]

Eh. I'm saying WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS IN THE REAL WORLD AT ALL?

Those screencaps... =/

[Sir Legendhead]

Eh. I'm saying WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS IN THE REAL WORLD AT ALL?

Those screencaps... =/

Hahaha...oh man I'm terrible. I cut out like, most of your quote and everything, just because I had those screencaps ready before I saw your post.

As far as synths killing humans, you could draw the same parallel between nationalities which have gone to war with one another. Just to throw some Godwin's Law up in this bitch, I'm sure a German has married a Jew at some point in the last fifty years, right?

And the part about her not being human...that really could have been one of the most interesting aspects of the game. It was, actually. I liked the conversation they had in the mess hall of the Normandy, about that very subject. Myself, I'd consider her to be a sentient being, more so than most people, as a matter of fact. But eh, it's debatable and that's kind of the whole point. I don't think they wanted players to have an easy answer to that particular question.

[GlowBear]

Before you ever start drawing a similarity between human beings and robots dating & that association with mixed raced humans dating, you'd need to go through other questions and debates.

As you mentioned the question of whether EDI is human (she isn't, she's a robot) but it's up for debate, the AI debate, the "do robots have rights" .... all that Matrix style, I Robot stuff, which only exists in science fiction, not reality.

I just don't really see how racism/nazism comes correlates relevantly to the social implications of Joker and EDI getting freaky. When one is a very real issue and the other is science fiction. We'll end up on a complete tangent talking about whether sex dolls have human rights and pillows in the shape of anime characters should be allowed to vote.

[Sir Legendhead]

So you see EDI as nothing more than a sex doll?

[GlowBear]

Didn't say that ;_;

cucumber badger triangle sandwiches.

There find a meaning in that sentence

[Sir Legendhead]

Didn't say that ;_;

CucUmber badger triaNgle sandwiches.

There find a meaning in that sentence

Aren't you glad sandwich isn't spelled with a T?

aaaaaahhh...if I was a mod I'd ban me for that one