Mass Affection (Mass Effect Series)

[Stevil]

All kidding aside, I don't think it's a matter of Bioware "accepting" that the ending is shit. They knew it was shit before the first fan reaction. That's why they left so many obvious hints about DLC. It's pretty obvious that they just didn't have time to do this thing justice. But now? Now they have all the time they need.

That's because they had another ending planned, but scrapped it.

Shepard was supposed to make a totally different decision, after finding out that the Reapers were giant supercomputers that were trying to stop Dark Engery from engulfing the universe...and human DNA held the key for solving it (hence that bit about Mordin talking about human bodies on Tuchanka). In the end, Shep has to make a choice - kill the Reapers and let the galaxy figure out how to stop Dark Energy (which is close to critical) or do the horrible thing and sacrifice humanity to help crunch the numbers.

But they scrapped that because Dark Energy took the spotlight away from the Reapers, the player couldn't fight mathematics, and the whole magic human DNA thing was really just a stretch.

I don't know the full details, but that was where the plot was heading before.

[ZombiePlatypus]

As long as I could keep Ash, I'd totally sacrifice humanity. We could repopulate, Wrex & Eve style.

[Brightside]

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If there were to be post-ending DLC, and it has to take place before the Cerberus HQ bit, I would imagine there would be some sort of mission to find an anti-indoctrination device. I'm sure someone mentioned that a mission back to the Collector Base for some sort of item was in the leaked script, but was canned — or held back — from the main game. Still be a bit annoying unless they changed all of the endgame.

[Sir Legendhead]

@ ZP - I think they set that for people who hadn't done the side missions. It's not literally the last save point. Besides,

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the current endings don't really matter anyway. Either you fight off indoctrination by choosing Destroy, or you give in by taking one of the other two options. It's like the thing where Shep can die at the end of two. You can't start ME3 from there because he's dead.

@ Stevil - I remember that, yeah. The leak probably had a lot to do with them changing things at the last minute as well.

[Jon Bloodspray]

I'd like to see some DLC that lets you see what all your war assets were doing while Shep was off being a big damn hero. Elcor holding the line while Kirrahee and his STG group do some wetwork? Yes please.

[ZombiePlatypus]

Kal'Reegar's last stand!

[Sir Legendhead]

Oh hell yeah. I wanna see the Volus bomber fleet.

[ClownBaby]

I'd like to see some DLC that lets you see what all your war assets were doing while Shep was off being a big damn hero. Elcor holding the line while Kirrahee and his STG group do some wetwork? Yes please.

I'd be OK with this.

I'm OK with the ending and don't need "closure" persay personally, but this would just be neat. Also I just wanna see the Elcor kicking ass with their back mounted guns and shit.

[Stevil]

I'd like to see you play other characters, but only party members, really. That said, I'm gathering all these assets at the mo, and aside from the blurbs, I have no idea what they're doing and how it will affect my return to Earth (beyond the obvious major casualties penalty).

[ClownBaby]

I'd like to see you play other characters, but only party members, really. That said, I'm gathering all these assets at the mo, and aside from the blurbs, I have no idea what they're doing and how it will affect my return to Earth (beyond the obvious major casualties penalty).

They actually really affect things.

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I can't find it right now but there was a flow chart with details, but basically certain decisions will actually affect how the last battlefield plays out such as how much air support you have, if the Krogan are shooting at people or if they're dead the Salarians, how many husks you fight, etc.

[Sir Legendhead]

They actually really affect things.

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I can't find it right now but there was a flow chart with details, but basically certain decisions will actually affect how the last battlefield plays out such as how much air support you have, if the Krogan are shooting at people or if they're dead the Salarians, how many husks you fight, etc.

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I'd like to see that chart. The Krogan got blown up in my game, and the Salarians crapped out at the last second. So for me it was all humans. I didn't know it could go differently.

[ZombiePlatypus]

God damn, Shane. Your game was waaay differnt than mine. I love it.

[Jon Bloodspray]

Shane,

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that Salarian cunt backed out on me at the last second too! I thought we were getting along too, and then she did that seemingly out of spite.

[Sir Legendhead]

Yeah, evidently -

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there was a mission on Tuchanka where I was supposed to stop a bomb from going off. And I didn't realize I only had a certain amount of time to get there. So for the rest of the game, the Krogan had been 9/11'd.

edit - as far as the Salarians,

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they just kind of cancelled for some nebulous reason. Not sure what happened there, I was probably kind of out of it that night.

[Jon Bloodspray]

Yeah, evidently -

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there was a mission on Tuchanka where I was supposed to stop a bomb from going off. And I didn't realize I only had a certain amount of time to get there. So for the rest of the game, the Krogan had been 9/11'd.

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I did that one first, because I figured if I couldn't stop the bomb, none of the other missions would matter.

[ClownBaby]

Found it!

Not sure how much of this is true but it makes sense.

SPOILERS obviously.

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[TheRemedy]

I don't think that chart is accurate.

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I don't believe there is any possible way to stop Harbinger from reaching Earth. A lot of other things seem like speculation.

Edit: Yeah, looking at the chart again, it looks like a fan made "what if" thing. How they would do the ending.

[ClownBaby]

Ah I think you're right, I just glanced at it the first time.

But stuff like

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saving the Krogans or not does seem to affect how many of them are shooting at stuff on the streets, or how much air support you have. I think that might be half fact half fiction. Or maybe none and there's more info out there somewhere.

[N7]

I'd like DLC of being that Spectre fish dude on set playing out scene. Forget the name, and Conrad Verner fantasy DLC as him acting out key moments of ME1 & 2. I want some goofy shit after they address Epilogue.

[ClownBaby]

PS everyone your packs from the weekend should appear around 5PM PST tonight. It'll be interesting to see what we all get and what's in the Victory pack.